Joscha Bach, known as the magician of consciousness, is a famend AI researcher and cognitive scientist who has made …
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It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with primary consciousness will probably have to come first.
What I find special about the TNGS is the Darwin series of automata created at the Neurosciences Institute by Dr. Edelman and his colleagues in the 1990's and 2000's. These machines perform in the real world, not in a restricted simulated world, and display convincing physical behavior indicative of higher psychological functions necessary for consciousness, such as perceptual categorization, memory, and learning. They are based on realistic models of the parts of the biological brain that the theory claims subserve these functions. The extended TNGS allows for the emergence of consciousness based only on further evolutionary development of the brain areas responsible for these functions, in a parsimonious way. No other research I've encountered is anywhere near as convincing.
I post because on almost every video and article about the brain and consciousness that I encounter, the attitude seems to be that we still know next to nothing about how the brain and consciousness work; that there's lots of data but no unifying theory. I believe the extended TNGS is that theory. My motivation is to keep that theory in front of the public. And obviously, I consider it the route to a truly conscious machine, primary and higher-order.
My advice to people who want to create a conscious machine is to seriously ground themselves in the extended TNGS and the Darwin automata first, and proceed from there, by applying to Jeff Krichmar's lab at UC Irvine, possibly. Dr. Edelman's roadmap to a conscious machine is at https://arxiv.org/abs/2105.10461
JB makes technology more human, and humans more technological. Thank you, he is as close to AGI as it gets currently, as he bridges this continuity back unto the set point.
It was exactly a 20 min talk until you interrupted him.
Very interesting. Please don't interrupt him and let him continue talking for another 20 minutes. :]
Fascinating! This is another great talk. Since you end with Yann's architecture, however, I do want to say that creating agents from end-to-end differentiable neural nets seems incredibly dangerous. LLMs run by symbolic agents, on the other hand, seem much safer. The symbolic code, at least, is transparent.
Bach amazing as usual! Bummer his train of thought was interrupted at the end.
What if you learn a model to predict the next development/invention that advances humanity?
Thank you for presenting this brilliant, intresting genius who is helping to bring the rest of us into this exciting, frightening new world. Joscha Bach is a gift to us all.
9:38 the caricature though 😮
13:35 currently unable to do it twice without changing the perspective
The women wasn't following what he was explaining
The dumb moderator cut him off just as he was getting to the good part. 😅 Obviously she wasn't following.
Good up to date keynote.
ok, so this Bach guy will lead creating a AGI system at Intel? Like Intel got into telecom space before? I am not holding my breath.